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how far will you help a person from another school?

What I love about the FMA Community is the people are generally friendly. Over time you develop strong bonds with these people and look forward to seeing them in other tournaments throughout the years. But no matter how "friendly" you get, it's still a competition.

So I ask you, if another school were to ask you to help them become better competitors? Would you help? And if so how much? And would you do it for free?

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Comment by terry joven on March 31, 2010 at 11:42am
Good question!
We have many FMA practioners attend our full contact sparring sessions. Most times they are free because we all gain the necessary fight time that is required to keep sharp and in the game. If anything we would charge a $10 floor fee.
Now we also have full contact clinics that we do for free and other that we do charge depending on the distance and amount of personnel. For info on those you can go to
We want our compitetion to get better because as they get better we get better.. Does that make sense? We compete as much as we can because it is the only way to stay sharp and on your game.
By sparring with different personnel we reaffirm wether or not our techniques are working...and if not.. we can go home...lick our wounds think about what did not work and go back the next time and try again till we get it right!
Leo taught us that there are no secret techniques out there. Hopefully the concepts and skills you learned...will keep you out of harms way!
Its better to sweat in peace than to bleed in war!
Comment by Francis Serrano on March 31, 2010 at 12:45pm

Oh no I'm all about sharing of the knowledge. But my question really is more about rival schools (although friendly) how much do you teach them?

To be more specific, my group broke off from another group and now we are two separate entities. But most of the students their are still my very dear friends. But they did choose to stay with the original school. But now during tournaments they ask us to be their corner man and help them prepare for their matches before hand too. Now although they are my friends I feel like why don't they ask their group leaders?

Am i being petty?
Comment by terry joven on March 31, 2010 at 2:51pm
We have had a similar situation in the past. When we left our parent organization their were similar feelings between us and them. Mostly because they tried to discredit and or saying we are unathorized to teach the art that was taught to all of us. 99% of us left that organization volunteerly. But i digress if your situation is like ours. We feel the apple does not fall from the tree. We all came from Leo we all should be equal in skill and knowledge.... since they do not recognize us and we chose to distance ourselves from their organization we would not assist them in getting better. You are correct in that situation... their group leaders should be more than able to assist them.

Bahala Na!
Comment by terry joven on March 31, 2010 at 2:53pm
Sorry in my opinion!
Comment by Ramyer Asonalleba on April 6, 2010 at 5:31pm
Comment by Joshua Morale on April 26, 2010 at 8:57am
Francis, If these people are your friends and your brothers in arms. I say don't let ego and pride stand in front of brotherhood -Josh
Comment by Sean Anderson on June 16, 2010 at 7:15pm
This is an individualized topic. I broke off from a group led by an ego-maniac, knew him since 4th grade and he allowed money and more importantly ego to contol all. What also led to me breaking off was that he was funneling my students over to his school, and he knew I was struggling, but he really liked the loyalty and respect my students were known for and wanted them to follow him, from what I hear now it is more cult than anything. Not to mention in our area other schools BB instructors would come to our BB class learn as much as they could then leave a month later and start adding our techniques into their demos and not giving credit. I believe you can learn and do whatever you want with your knowledge but at least be Warrior enough to give credit where credit is due.
Personally I would help a school out if we had somewhat of a working relationship and a solid agreement that our students need to ask permission before going to another school just to maintain a clear relationship. We all have our own path in life. But there is a level of respect and order that keeps people like us in a position to support oneanother. I dont want my friends students coming to me without first telling their instructor My friend) I think it is just respectful and does teach students another level of resposibility. I would only accept money from a school that wants to add some fun and excitement to their school and asks me to run a seminar on my specialty, likewise I would then have them over to do the same. As long as we can respect each others space and business we can all benefit greatly from adhearing to the Warrior code. That would make for a beautiful martial world. Thats why I love this site so much. Thank you all for this opportunity.
Comment by Bill on June 16, 2010 at 8:49pm
When I was stateside and looking for a place to train, I went to various schools who advertised the FMA. For the most part, I got attitude and egotistical comments about my own background in training.. I kept out of the mainstream of Chicago FMA circuit for most of the time I was there, then I hooked up with the DTS crew in Chicago.. They brought me into their fold with open arms and we exchanged teachings from each of our respective systems at no charge, it was like visiting family..

I have always had open doors with people who wanted to exchange or learn what I taught with what they had, but the first time I saw arrogance or ego boasting, they were gone faster than water off of a duck's back.. It has served me several times and even when the challenges were issued, they were met on straight with no deviations..

It is great to help expand someone's knowledge in the respective styles and helping each other, but it is always met with skeptism and misunderstanding in some individuals..


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