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Over 75% of the martial artists out there would lose if they were ever attacked with a knife! Get that? Over 75%.

Why ?

Because they aren't thinking outside of the box. You have heard the term -- it refers to looking at a situation from a perspective not in the normal thought processes. Most people can only view the problem from within their own paradigm.

Knifers never leave home without it..

Huh ?

Applied to self defense, it means that a lot of techniques wouldn't work in a real emergency situation.

The majority of martial artists practice their knife self defense against others in their same style or system. You have shotokan practicing against shotokan, white eyebrow practicing again white eyebrow, tang soo do against tang soo do, etc....why not some real street smart scenario.

If these folks ever get attacked, their defense techniques probably won't go as planned. They are fighting someone out of their frame of reference.

There is a great word in the English language. It's 'verisimilitude.'

I think martial arts techniques need to be put to the test, don't you?

You need to see and feel that the move is a practical self defense maneuver or I may say Practical counter - offensive maneuver.

Knife Fighting

Knives are an interesting category of weapon. They are capable of inflicting great damage yet they are freely available for purchase unlike guns, in the hands of a skilled knife-fighter they become much more dangerous. This article will portray a picture of knife fighting and issues connected to this skill.

Knife Types

There are only three types of knives worth discussing for our purposes. The simplest type of knife is the Full Tang Blade, this is a knife that has a handle molded to the extension of the blade, i.e. it consists of only one part of steel covered by a handle for grip. Another type is the Folding Blade which is the commonly known knife that can be compacted to half its size by folding the blade into the handle. And finally specialty knives such as belt buckle knives and credit card knives which exist in a category of their own.

Choosing a Good Knife

Even with the wide proliferation of knife manufacturers good knives are hard to find, not any knife is suitable for knife combat. There are several factors to consider. The size of the knife is very important, although the largest knife is the best in practical civillian use a large knife can be uncomfortable to carry and very difficult to conceal. The generally accepted ideal knife size is a blade length of 3 inches and perhaps another 3 or 4 inches for the handle. At that size the knife can be carried comfortably, is of light weight and easy to conceal. Quality is another factor which can be very serious in the case of folding knives. A bad quality folding knife can close on the carrier's fingers when striking a target causing self injury, quality should always be a deciding factor in the case of folding knives. Folding knives are usually chosen because when closed for carry they are small in size fitting neatly into a trouser pocket. Unbranded steel types such as 'Stainless Steel' should be avoided as it is a sign of poor quality, it is preferable to select a special type of steel such as 'stainless steel 420' or 'stainless steel 440', other excellent choices are also available. Finally a few Full Tang knives come with their own carry system, i.e. a sheath in the form of shoulder carry or belt carry that allows the user to conceal the knife very easily. Prices for good knives can vary from $40 USD upto and more than $200 USD for the best.

Knives usually come with their own sheath, knives meant for civillian use come with their own concealed carry rigs such as the shoulder rig which carries a knife upside down on the left side (for right handed persons). This allows for a quick draw of the knife, a quick drawing of the knife into the combat position is essential in self defense situations, a knife fighter will have to be able to draw his knife into the attack position in 2 seconds. Anything slower will mean that the opponent will have time to react offensively.

Concealed Carry and Draw

Knives usually come with their own sheath, knives meant for civillian use come with their own concealed carry rigs such as the shoulder rig which carries a knife upside down on the left side (for right handed persons). This allows for a quick draw of the knife, a quick drawing of the knife into the combat position is essential in self defense situations, a knife fighter will have to be able to draw his knife into the attack position in 2 seconds. Anything slower will mean that the opponent will have time to react offensively.

Correct Mentality

When someone carries a knife for self defense that person has to be prepared to use that knife with lethal effect if necessary. In a self defense scenario there should be no doubt that the attacker intends to perform serious bodily damage, to prevent that from happening the knife user should be prepared to take any action necessary for self defense. Any hesitation or withdrawal from the fight could result in serious consequences.

Grip

The normal way a knife is usually held is the wrong way to hold a knife for fighting. The normal way is at fault because all the pressure on the handle of the knife is placed near the blade, on striking a hard target the knife will slip and cause self injury. This is the correct way to hold a knife; put the knife's handle at the base of your fingers, close your grip and apply pressure using the last three fingers, place the thumb on the blunt edge of the blade. This way a lot more pressure is applied on the handle and you are capable of sustaining large forces of impact on the knife's blade. The thumb is used to direct the blade to its target as you would naturally use your thumb to touch something.

Footworks

The correct stance to use has to be such as to prepare the fighter for any sudden movements and shifts in position. This is usually done by placing the right foot forward and the left foot is kept at the back with the heel off the ground. This is the easiest position to use for the footwork.

A fighter's body should be able to move in all directions either to avoid a strike by the attacker, to attack or carry out a combination of moves. Footwork will be used in combination with knife attack and counter-offensive moves.

Counter and Re - Counter

The simplest knife moves are those of cuts and thrusts. According to fight science when applied to knife combat the knife should move as fast as possible when cutting or thrusting. To do this the arm should be relaxed during the carrying out of the move. A lot of strength is not so necessary as a knife blade will concentrate your energy into one sharp point. Defense moves are also in the form of cut and thrust where the attackers arm is damaged to limit further attacks.

Knifer's Mentality

When someone carries a knife for protection that person has to be prepared to use that knife with lethal effect if necessary. In a real-life scenario there should be no doubt that the attacker intends to perform serious bodily damage, to prevent that from happening the knife user should be prepared to take any action necessary for his protection. Any hesitation or withdrawal from the fight could result in serious consequences.

Combinations

As with all fighting techniques attack, counter-attacts and footwork are all merged together into combinational movements with the objective of disabling the attacker.

Knife Drilling

Good quality knives have special versions of the same with a blunt edged blade for use in training. Rubber knives are also available to this purpose. Knife training usually involves more than one person where one holds a stick covered with rubber or foam and the trainee practices moves on the moving target. As the trainee drills more the knife fighting technique develops into part of instinct allowing for very fast reactions to attacks and confidence in the field.

Targets

There are three major target groups in a knife fight, muscles and nerves, blood vessels and vital organs. severing the muscles and nerves disables the attacker's limbs eventually achieving the purpose of self defense. Severing blood vessels and vital organs causes eventual death, the last form of deterrent to an attacker.

Kill By Knife

Using a knife to kill someone is better than doing it by hand as it gives the assassin the advantage of using a tool. Knife combat is the process of disabling a foe and finally applying a fatal hit with the knife to cause death. The first target of a knife should be the muscles, when severed they will not be able to function especially true in the case of the target's arms and legs. In such cases not only the tendons are severed by a knife but also nerves that control the action of the limbs. The second target should be the blood vessels which can be found in large concentrations around the neck and limbs. To sever the vessels in the neck the knife should be slashed across both sides of the neck in two rapid movements causing more damage than one slash. Finally the vital organs are targetted by knife thrust techniques such as the lungs. To reach the lungs the knife would have to be stabbed through the rib cage, once there it is very difficult to retrieve it, however a hit to the lung can result in several types of breathing complications resulting in death if first aid is not administered. Any stab attacks to bone such as the skull are usually undesirable as the knife could easily slip through the assassin's fingers causing self injury.

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I agree with your assessment on training within our own styles. I find that true in everything, not just knife fighting. I train in different styles from FMA and others. I hold my ranking in Kenpo and believe in one concept. Once you have a base set mastered, then go and explore and train in other styles. I spar with different practitioners of different styles. Both blade on blade and empty hand vs blade. I also try and spar with different body types and energies. From short to tall and skinny to obese. I have spared with those in FMA, Indonesian, western MA, and Japanese styles. I even spar with those who teach US Army combatives and Marine MA. I have the blessing and misfortune of being related and friends to convicts. I have spared with some of them also. You definitely can feel the difference of all aspects. You learn what works and what is flash! I also found that as I spar with them more and more, tactics have to change. This is because they are adjusting to me as well. So mental notes are made and written later to divide the First encounter from the repeat encounters. The reality is that the first encounter was the realistic one. The unknown factors and abilities of the person and styles. This is where most of my learning takes place; during spar sessions. Techniques are good and of great value, but the experience of the live action is where it is at! I agree that practitioners of the MA must train this way or make it part of their training to truly improve their chances at surviving a real life and death encounter. I feel strongly about making the statement that you use all weapons. Their are weapons all around us everyday! We should recognize them and train with those everyday objects. As far as the blade. I believe that decision is up to the person and what the laws are their. I have heard of having cheap blades on you, so if you need to throw it away, your not out a lot of money. That person resides in England and the laws their make it illegal to carry a blade. I live in the US and carry a couple on me. mine are not cheap, but don't cost me an arm and a leg either. It is legal for certain types of blades. In conclusion....Great article!!
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Gumagalang sa Yo,

Mandatus Samuel A.Ibe
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Point well made!! Sure the FMA has alot of good knife 'disarms' and stripping technique to remove the blade from the hand, but come on....if I'm a situation where I don't have a knife (or haven't deployed my knife at that moment in time) and the other guy does, chances are I'm not really going to go grabbing for his blade hand. Thats like putting your fingers in a blender!! OUCH!!! Not my cup of tea. Such a small surface area to grab and not to mention the guy may be swinging and slashing that blade all over the place. Better to focus on the entire area of the weapon arm (more surface area available) than the hand with a blade in it.
In the Palisutan Arnis curriculum I'm using empty hand FMA defenses to create distance and draw my handgun.

I practice putting obstacles between myself and the knifer...(environmental), chair, light post, tree, etc. This helps improve draw-time and shooting from behind cover. This same concept applies to drawing a counter knife.

Always, always, always awareness and avoidance are the best defenses.

Guro Dave
I agree with that the knife does reveal a lot about many styles and their skills, i also think it's true that most don't do it right.......

I teach my students reaction body movement, we have some of our body movement in Balintawak from Boxing and it works as a reflex when someone hits/stabs against your face, shoulder, stomach or legs.....Then we learn how to move it "fast", as a responds to "sucker punch" and such.

Besides that i also teach flow-drills and sparring with NOK Knifes like "Empty Hand vs. the Knife" and "Knife vs. Knife". I also teach my students to look for better weapons in their surroundings, that they most likely will get hit/cut and to run if they can......But the knife is a tricky thing and i wont advice fighting someone with skills.....he he :)

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