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We all have read or heard the connection between FMA and boxing. How many out there actually include boxing as part of there curriculum?

 Basic boxing is one of those elements that while not fancy , sexy or flashy just plain works and under bad conditions as well . The body mechanics developed by working your boxing will help your weapons training as well as the reverse

When I say boxing I don't just mean punching . I mean being able to throw combinations , slip , bob .weave and using footwork .

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Great topic!  I totally agree.  A good jab can open your opponent up for all kinds of possibilities. Good foot work can get you in... and more importantly, out fast, especially if your opponent is armed with a weapon.  A good combo can soften them up and make them pliable.  Last but not least, a good punch can stop your opponent completely regardless of what weapon they carry. Again nice topic!  ;-)
I really have to do more boxing type training.  But when I do, I do basic boxing combinations of 2 or 3 strikes.  I understand there are more combinations, but this is usually sufficient.  After empty hand boxing combination, I'll grab a couple of practice knives and do the same combinations.  I'll switch it up from regular boxing to FMA style boxing with or without knives.
My style Modified Pangamut, we use boxing is several different ways. In the Corto range we using stick boxing! There is nothing like a good cross or hook with the stick landing first to wake a guy up who wants to grapple/clinch with you. We using boxing in our empty hands mixed tapti-tapi and kick boxing.  I mean with foot work, slipping and bobbing, weaving,We use boxing with our knife fighting for the USFMAF knife with kick and punch division. We using boxing for conditioning as well by using free weights and doing the motions and foot work. Add your breathing techniques and you can go for many rounds. You should have like 10 basic punches with your footwork to make all kinds of combos. These are just my thoughts!
Marc Lawerence used the term Stickboxing , which reminded me of a excellent video from Guro Ted Lucay Lucay has anyone else seen it ?

Yes great video i think i let someone borrow it and they never gave it back. I also have his panantukan video!

I didn't borrow those, but I did buy them at I & I. Let me know if you wanna watch them.



I also feel that boxing is a good match with FMA in terms of movement style, movement , footwork etc



We definitely integrate boxing into what we do - classical, dirty, and modified.  :)

Here's a link you've probably seen but might be useful:




To download:


Very interesting documentary about the Filipino boxers in the 1920s or so taking America by storm. Think it was hosted on youtube or something but forget the link so sorry about that.


As regards to the OP GM Yuli Romo does show us the similarity between FMA (and in particular double knife in the reverse grip) and boxing.


However, although I believe it is connected I view "boxing" to be a distinct art like Karate or Kung Fu in relation to Eskrima. If we can understand the movements we undertake with staff, sword, stick and knife we should be able to understand empty hands. And vice versa. That it is better to look within our own frame of reference and combat than to "bolt on" something else.


Having said that, being good at boxing would more than likely get you through most of the scuffles an average person encounters in life. Unlike many martial arts you actually get punched in the face and have to deal with it. A great art not to be understated.

Great topic, our boxing component is part of our core curriculum, the footwork, evasions & slips make up the foundation for the rest of our empty hand, stick, or bladed weapon defensive and offensive movements.  It also teaches the students to become proficient with both hands. Great post.

I taught that empty hand training will be part of your overall syllabus. Boxing, kickboxing, mauy thai can be used in eskrima as well, if U come from this background.Dumog can come from jijitsu also, so it is a complete system. The footwork is nearly the same, shuffle, bob, weave, cover,  female and male triangles, circle steps etc will also be used in boxing, mauy thai.The learning process is on going. Conditioning, skipping, bag work, road work, shadow boxing, is all part of the whole picture. Even pratice some pushing hands for taiji, to get some sensititivity inot your empty hand  movements single and double pushing hands are found in most taiji styles.




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