1985 was when GGM Angel Cabales & GM D. had demos at Karate tournament in San Leandro at Max Pallen's tournament when they were first starting WEKAF so GM D arranged the demo with Max Pallen it was at this tournament is when GM D & myself first met Jeff 'Stickman' Finder. Jeff had saw that demo then made contact with GM D later training with GM D before he trained with GGM Cabales.
Also it was thru GM D that Finder & Marc Saban were introduced to Master John K. Wong of WuShing Tai Chi with whom GM D had been studying with for years receiving
his black sash in WuShing Tai-Chi . WuShing Tai Chi is part of the core of Davis Method of Self Defense/Davis/Cabales Serrada Escrima Sysytem