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I have been practicing with swords for about 5 years now, even after being separated from my GM. So far, dual wielding is my favorite form (hence Arnis). Recently, after taking up a few formal classes again, I have been getting symptoms of Carpal Tunnel pains in my wrist, which I never had before.

Question:

1.Do you guys have any restrictions or cautionary measures to prevent wrist injuries?

2.Do conditions improve through continues training?

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There may be persons here who have been diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and they may advise you but for medical advice I suggest that you get to a medical doctor (MD), a general practitioner MD, who can direct you to someone who can properly diagnose you and send you on your way to a specialist.

I am sure that you are not going to be alone with wrist or hand injuries on this site because so much of our art involves the arms and hands.  My own hands are often numb, and have the feeling of pin cushions, which are reminiscent of carpal tunnel syndrome, but I've never been diagnosed so I have no statements to make regarding treatment.

Above all, any advice that you get is not based on a MyFMA.net recommendation.

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Thomas

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I have had wrist pains for the past 10 years, alot of it i beleive is from my day job typing with 1 finger for 10 hrs a day.

i used to have Carlito Bonjoc hilot my right wrist 2-3 times a week to get rid of what he called rice crispies or some kind of build up in my wrist, he would also put back nerves that seemed to be out of place. Hilot really works. When ever the pain returns i give Carlito a call.

also good warmups and wrist streches will also help prevent wrist injuries, Dexter Labonog swears by them and it is part of the beginners curriculum for bahalanamulti-style. Leo had a set warmup that all of the Giron escrima schools do prior to training!

 

I fell at work last year and broke my ankle in one place tearing both tendons off. It took a lot of time and WORK to get it functioning right again. That work was monitored by a Physical Therapist and I have a new-found respect for these practicioners. I found them really knowledgeable and I have many exercises that I have now wrapped in to my daily physical routine to keep strength and flexibility in my ankle. One of these is called the balance matrix. There is a more technical term my PT used but we jokingly called it the Matrix because you look like the guy from that movie dodging bullets when you struggle through it sometimes. Your feet are your foundation as many of us know and I was pretty worried at first. Definitely seek out qualified medical advice ASAP. Exercises, stretching and massage helped my situation tremendously. I haven 't been in a full speed sparring situation in a long while so I can't truly test my ankle but I walk daily and do grass drills successfully. Not without pain but I have my function back. Take it seriously and ADAPT your fighting style if necessary! We are warriors for life. I wouldn't sit back and do the same routine and expect conditions to improve without adapting and seeking help.

Henry Paz

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I agree with all responses... Better to get the injury taken care of because not allowing the injury to heal properly will cause major problems in the future and could hamper training indefinitely.  I suffer from occasional joint pain from time to time but I know when to rest so that I can recover and train further.  Proper warm ups will help to limit injuries especially with the wrist before training in Eskrima. The older we get, the more warm up time we need as well as recovery time.

 

Regards,

Zach

thank you for your input guys. 

i did see a specialist for it, and I am now getting better. I switched to a two-hander (nine ring broadsword) during rehab, and that helped me a lot.

Probable cause of the pain is the twirling of stick/sword during exercise. I am now using a "different way" of doing it, that still creates the same outcome. I can now use sticks and double broadswords again.

As an instructor, it is our job to protect our students. Whether it be not allowing certain type of sparring or not allowing an advanced training method that the student hasn't built proper body mechanics for or simply over work. One reason I discourage by-my-self training (for long term, all of my students are required to train by them selves in-between classes) is because they are going to be mechanics and/or movements that the student isn't going to see/understand/or remember. And these improper movements could cause serious injury. Two things I focus on when it comes to repetitive swing motions are grip conditioning and proper swing motion. Using grip exercises and stretches before and after is essential to good heath. Also if your swing arc is not in line with you striking surface (ie your knuckles) you are putting too much tension on tour tendons. If you are having pain while training there is only one sure fire to care for it and that's RICE rest ice compression and elevation. If it doesn't get better visit a doctor.

Mr. Estacio:

As a physical therapist, boarded clinical orthopedic specialist, your situation may require the diagnosis made by an MD or DO, from a family physician to an orthopedic surgeon or maybe even a hand specialist. I don't know the severity of your case, but if it has not resolved itself in 2 weeks then you may want to make sure that it is given medical attention before it worsens.

"PRICE" is something you can control in the mean time...Protection, Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation.

for #2, I have had some patients [who were medically cleared] adapt and overcome their irritation over time with just corrective exercise.

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