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I'm beginning to think that some students of martial arts not only learn the principles of the club, they also become what the master is.  Often times, the ego of the master can be passed on to their selected students who adore their masters so much.  In one of my trips in Thailand, I noticed that Muay fighters are encouraged to offer prayers and food to the temple because they need to take away the ego that often destroys the practitioners, especially after a victory.  It's a good club tradition.

I have trained with many masters and each of them has their own character.  Some masters begin their training by checking their egos first, while others will speak like a god as if they are a cult.  This kind of approach may work to boost the student's ability to feel superior, but then it can also destroy the students character especially when he begins to believe that all other masters and all other clubs are no good compared to theirs.  That's when the building of ego begins.  Like master, like student.

I speak on behalf of my experience.  Once upon a time I became an egoistic sonov without realizing that I am becoming like my egoistic master.  I am simply glad that yesterday was finished.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Welcome to! I like being a part of this list because I get to observe and take part in good FMA discussions and it is a respectful, open-minded culture. It is also the only place I can pick up and touch FMA when I am far from my hometown outside of my own practice. I live in the Spokane Washington USA area and there aren't many options for FMA here so I am glad for this site.

I am glad you stated what you did about not idolizing your master. So many times I see a person in the position of mentoring or teaching take it to a level beyond what the role is. Like they are making little clones of what they think the perfect being is. This I think is only a problem if the student doesn't know who they are. We are adding good things to who we are when we practice FMA. The people and schools I've run across I've been really blessed to know people of good character and great technical and tactical proficiency. I have been shown a lot of respect and brotherly love in my FMA experiences. FMA is a big part of the community I'm from Stockton CA USA. I think like anything you choose to be a part of you can take the good and leave the bad and be your own judge. I found many leaders and not followers in my journey and that is what we are called to be. I am a Christian so I don't worry about pleasing people here on earth but I know I have an audience of one that I have to please.

I didn't know there was FMA in Moscow but I'm not surprised. Can you please share how you got there and what you do there. Are you a full-time FMA instructor? Also could you please tell more about the styles you have and their range and what weapons they use? Thanks and welcome.

Henry Paz

Thank you Henry.  I am humbled by your message.  Inasmuch as I wanted to share here in the story of how I made it to Russia, The movie The Bladed Hand will be on tour in America beginning October 12, and the story is there.  I do not want to spoil the upcoming movies' story, but I had an agreement with the producers of the movie. One of them is a member of this group, Mr. Sonny Sison.  I hope you guys can watch it. It is full of information that every FMAer should know.  Bu I will of course tell the story once the tour ends :)  However, this is what I can tell you;

The Russians have their own weapons style as they have histories of knights and sword plays.  When the communist took over, the military perfected their style of knife fighting and they used their skills not only against their enemies, but also against aggressive civilians who wanted to overthrow the government.

When I arrive there, I didn't have a hard time teaching them as they (military and not civilians) can adopt easily.  There are many moments when they question me as to why I use such and such footwork or such and such movements.  If they are not satisfied, they invite me (with a hard  straight face) to test the movements on them.  Military people are not stupid and they want to see it before they adopt it.  The same way they ask about the history of FMA. If they think it's fantasy, they will not absorb it unlike in other countries that I have been to.

Russians love to to stay close and if they can reach you, they drop the use of the stick and punch and kick you crazy, fast and hard, which surprisingly is very effective.  In my 7 years (going 8) of stay, I was able to learn some strategies.  So I took the military sambo class so I can understand where they are coming from.  And I succeeded.   Sambo (pronounced as SAMBAH) are 2 kinds:  Sambo Voennie which is Military style, and the Sport Sambo.

By learning sambo, I was able to make my pokemon self become effective against Godzilla. You can see my sambo photos in my album here in  And from there, I have made the FMA adjust and adopt to their fighting style and it become an effective mix.

As for weapons, it depends on which city you are in coz the size of Russia looks like half of the world and each city has their own.  My favorite is the Kinjzhall, a sword with an arab-islam influence. I hope I was able to answer your inquiry henry. Thanks for asking me sir.

I've never heard of a Kinjzhall ... and neither has Google!  Can you provide an image of one?

Hello Jeffrey,  Sorry for the late reply coz I have to switch to my Russian computer to copy the word.  The word Kinjzhall in Russian is written this way:


Try to copy-paste this word and see if google can find it for you.

If you can't find this in google, I will take a photo of my Kinjzhall.  How do you put a photograph here in the discussions? (excuse me, I am over 40's and having a hard time with technology)

Jeff, for a few hours I have the photo of kinjzhall posted here but I have to delete it because my fiance is a member of the forces and I cannot expose her face. thank you.  what's your email address though? I can send it to you.

Try searching for "kindjal."

I wrote the word in Russian; Кинжал   

copy-paste it in google and it will show you the results.

thanks .

Most martial arts have a philosophical side.  Some completely ignore that aspect and focus strictly on the martial part.  I tend to see that w/ a lot of "American" schools.  Then there are those who "speak philosophically" but their actions contradict that.  It's human nature to uphold, even revere, a teacher in such high regard.  It can be hard to see when one is in the thick of it.  Bless those around us who can point arrogance out, whether it be theirs or our own.  In the end, what we do is based on a belief system.  Having those beliefs questioned will often expose the fallacy or insecurity of an individual's ego or a system's flaws, in which case, it can be seen as a challenge.  Those who have evolved to a hire self will first look at the mirror and question themselves.  Those who are scared will fight back to protect ego or blame others.

btw...welcome to, kapatid. 

we anxiously await the video results of your payong test at UP and with the spets.

I am a teacher, guro. I do not really use the title with my students, I do not let them say sir, I ask them to use my first name or like my student Brian calls me   "J" as a student I learned in a teacher/friend relationship, a family way. This way there is still respect as a family member and nobody gets that big head, the student realizes growth in knowledge and skill and is not looked down on by others in the group. Many, even the most humble may with many students feel so important as to believe they are god like.

BTW, its the student's fault! Just kidding.


Hello Sonny Sison.  Thank you for encouraging me to join the  I really have no intentions in joining public forums because of "10 year old adults" under some fantasy names who fights for a piece of lollipop.  I was surprised that people here are educated and calm.  Maybe horny, but still educated and calm :)

The payong tests will happen in October 6, University of The Philippines, in front of a panel composing of FMA masters and historians.  This is not to discredit the payong movement, but to further improve it's effectiveness.  If payong can be breached, something has to be done like a little modification, and have them all on record.

Joel Morales, a had a very close friend named Joana Morales when I was still a student of The United States Sports Academy in Alabama, batch 1994.  The name might sound familiar to you.  

Anyways, sometimes I feel that it's the student's fault when he becomes arrogant and conceited.  After all, a person's character begins at home.  When daddy pulls that leather belt off his waste and smack the buns, it awaken the kid.

My nephew took taekwondo lessons at age 7, he's now 16 and he's a well disciplined kid. He got the humility from sparring and small time tournaments.  When he felt the pain, he knew that he can't just mess around with anybody whom he's not familiar with.

I'm sorry I have no son so please share, how do you discipline your sons or students?


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